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\"Gadino<\/a>

Gadino with Lauren Ashley Bishop<\/p><\/div>\n

When I paint, as I\u2019ve pointed out before, I listen to music or podcasts, often about comedy but also about history, music, and there\u2019s always Radiolab. I should get Audible.com but my attention to what I\u2019m hearing contends with what I\u2019m painting, so there would be way too much re-listening. Besides, for several years now, while listening to comedians talk casually about how they get by and do what they do, I\u2019m constantly seeing parallels with a painter\u2019s life, at least in the range I\u2019m doing it\u2014getting some recognition and awards and some sales, now and then\u2014but otherwise laboring away obscurely in Rochester, NY. At their best, comedians speak truths that make you uncomfortable, but in a way that lets you enjoy the discomfort\u2014because you\u2019re laughing. It reminds me of Dave Hickey\u2019s dictum that art can depict something very uncomfortable as long as it does it beautifully\u2014beguiling you into looking at what you don\u2019t particularly want to see. Jim Norton\u2019s recent address to Just for Laughs<\/a>, a big comedy festival in Canada, was profoundly truthful about the enforced politesse of our PC culture. He talked about how comedians need to keep violating norms and conventions and rules for what can and can\u2019t be said in public, all in the pursuit of laughter. As he put it, murder isn\u2019t funny, but jokes about murder can be funny, and the laughter takes precedence over any responsibility for those who don\u2019t get the humor. Cruel laughter isn\u2019t the goal, but rather the laughter that\u2019s also a confession of recognition of truths in what might otherwise be censored in this culture of complaint about hurt feelings. Hurt feelings are a part of moving around in the vicinity of other people. Just walk down a sidewalk in New York City and five or six things or people will somehow affront your sense of self-importance or propriety or good taste. That walk will also make you feel utterly alive. Conversely, way too much art attempts to do what comedy legitimately does: shock people in a way you discover isn\u2019t so bad, once you realize the context, that it\u2019s art. (Or comedy.) I prefer art that seduces in such a way that you hardly realize you\u2019ve been charmed. It requires you to pay attention, but doesn\u2019t fulfill your expectations that art needs to be radically unlike other art or just ordinary life. Shock value isn\u2019t high on my list of priorities. I can handle it with comedy and actually like it, if the shock is subtle and clever.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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\u00a0Anyway, I was listening to Laughspin<\/a> while working on a conventional still life a couple days ago, and making some encouraging progress in my methods and choices. (I\u2019ll figure out how to write about that eventually.) The podcast I was sampling was a long conversation between two guys I don\u2019t really know much about other than that Dylan Gadino is in charge of Laughspin. Not that that means he has enough money to do what he wants to do. (Another similarity to painting.) There\u2019s nothing much to hear here, other than how funny it is, and I can\u2019t tell if it\u2019s intentionally funny or inadvertently so, or maybe some alternating current of both candor and irony. It\u2019s almost like a parody of Marc Maron\u2019s occasionally deadly serious probes of some guest\u2019s dysfunction and angst. I hardly listen to Maron anymore. I\u2019ve moved on to Kevin Pollak who really devotes himself to the guest, does exhaustive research beforehand, and listens in a way that provokes a genuine reaction, a continuation of what the guest is saying, salted with the occasional Christopher Walken impersonation. So, here\u2019s what had me laughing out loud as the conversation kept going. Just keep asking yourself, these are guys whose profession is funniness? It will make you smile at least. It\u2019s also like an episode of C.K. but that\u2019s a good thing. It reminds me of those lines in Quick Change<\/i> where Ray Elliott, as a bank guard, asks Bill Murray, dressed as a circus clown: \u201cJust what kind of clown are you anyway?\u201d Murray: \u201cThe crying-on-the-inside-kind I guess.\u201d<\/div>\n
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Dylan Gadino: I have a lot of ideas but I can\u2019t execute them.<\/div>\n
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Jason Nash: No cash.<\/div>\n
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G: Yeah. Yeah. I\u2019m like a comedian with no jokes. They say friends and family are your first round for venture capital. That is great. What if your dad is a retired mailman and your mom is a retired nurse and you are first generation college educated and everyone you know has not gone to college. I can\u2019t go to, like, an uncle . . . I can\u2019t believe we\u2019re talking about this.<\/div>\n
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J: This is what people want to hear.<\/div>\n
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G: That\u2019s what I\u2019m dealing with. I have a good brand. I have a good following.<\/div>\n
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J: Do you have analytics and stuff?<\/div>\n
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G: Yeah. Our number one referral is, oddly enough, Pinterest. We have three million Pinterest followers.<\/div>\n
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J: Really?<\/div>\n
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G: How did we devolve into . . .<\/div>\n
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J: It\u2019s a more interesting conversation than me and me and me.<\/div>\n
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G: That\u2019s my deal then.<\/div>\n
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J: Are you crying?<\/div>\n
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G: No. I can probably . . . I haven\u2019t cried in a while. I love a good cry. Are you on any anti-depressants?<\/div>\n
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J: Yeah. Lamictal.<\/div>\n
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G: Oh. I\u2019ve never heard of that.<\/div>\n
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J: It\u2019s great.<\/div>\n
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G: I\u2019m on Zoloft. I can\u2019t cry.<\/div>\n
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J: Really? That\u2019s so crazy.<\/div>\n
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G: Something really awful has to happen. You know what? I tear up during certain movies and certain television shows.<\/div>\n
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J: I do too.<\/div>\n
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G: No matter how depressed I get I don\u2019t cry.<\/div>\n
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J: That\u2019s because you\u2019re a man and . . .<\/div>\n
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G: Oh no I\u2019m not.<\/div>\n
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J: I\u2019m impressed with guys who feel nothing. I feel everything. Look at you. You\u2019re doing such a good job (of being a man.)<\/div>\n
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G: It\u2019s the drugs though. Patton has a bit about this. Where he\u2019ll go off his Prozac for whatever reason. And you\u2019re super depressed and you realize the drugs do do something.<\/div>\n
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J: The one I\u2019m on is great but if people got off it you commit suicide.<\/div>\n
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G: I used to be on something like that where it\u2019s a huge process to get off of it. I\u2019m on something like Prozac, Zoloft, that if you miss a few days it\u2019s still in your system. \u00a0But yeah I\u2019ve gone through that on other stuff where nobody told you if you miss a day you\u2019ll go fucking nuts. It feels like people are physically fighting in my head.<\/div>\n
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J: I had that. Do you have\u00a0that where if two people are talking at the same time you get . . . crazed? I have two kids . . .<\/div>\n
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G: That sounds like a normal parent thing.<\/div>\n
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J: One thing is, I\u2019m focused and have things to say and I\u2019m worried about some day I\u2019ll run out.<\/div>\n
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G: Yeah, it\u2019s scary. I\u2019m not that type of guy either who is content with looking forward to the game or goes out drinking.<\/div>\n
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J: Watching the game? I couldn\u2019t think of anything worse. You mean watch people running a ball on the field? You like players who have just agreed to play for your city. You\u2019re going to wear a shirt of another grown man? What if I put on a black t-shirt like the one you\u2019re wearing and glasses like yours.<\/div>\n
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G: Dylan!<\/div>\n
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J: So I\u2019m a Dylan fan. I guess people do that with music.<\/div>\n
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G: Yeah, Mr. Billy Joel t-shirt.<\/div>\n
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J: Hahaha. I guess Billy Joel is cooler than Tom Brady.<\/div>\n
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This is funny on so many levels. Maybe the Billy Joel t-shirt was ironic. \u00a0Some training is needed for anyone who doesn\u2019t think Tom Brady is cool. As a Bills fan, I hate him, sure. But he\u2019s cooler than Billy Joel. Way.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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